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Monday, July 14, 2008 posted by Lady Penelope in Politics Sir-Edward

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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 03:32 PM

Isn’t she that racist, violent woman who punched a security guard and then lied about it? Thank God they kept his identity a secret, she would have media-lynched him.

Makes sense the Green Party is going for her - political extremists are such assholes.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 03:40 PM

Isn’t she that racist, violent woman who punched a security guard and then lied about it?

I can find stories about Cynthia McKinney punching a police officer, but I can find nothing to indicate that she’s a racist, or that she lied about it.



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Posted by Moon
07/14 03:43 PM

Ah, that explains the Green Party t-shirts I saw this weekend.

I also believe that Obama was in the hipster doofus health club this weekend. I was approaching the club and there’s a big motorcade zooming out of there. Some woman said she saw Obama in the limo. Serious motorcade: 2 cop cars, 2 motorcycles, 2 security type SUVs and the limo - there might have been a second limo, as well.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 03:45 PM

I can find nothing to indicate that she’s a racist, or that she lied about it.

She claimed to have hit the officer with an open hand in the media, but the report stated it was with a closed fist. She later admitted this.

She also claimed that the security officer was a racist, because he’s white and she’s black and even though he did his job by stopping her for not wearing her badge, he’s a racist because she’d seen other people who didn’t have badges before. She then got Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers (a group notorious for hating Jews) behind her to crucify this white security guard. Her anger toward him was resulted from the fear that she’d get in trouble for assaulting him.

She’s a doll.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 03:49 PM

Wha? I read she hit him with a cell phone. All accounts say she hit him in the face with her cell phone.



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Posted by balderdash
07/14 03:50 PM

Here’s something from Ms. McKinney’s re election website.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 03:51 PM

Well, she lied and said it was an open hand. She may have had her fist wrapped around the cell phone to maximize the force when she hit him, I’m not sure.



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Posted by balderdash
07/14 03:51 PM

Oh wait, sorry I misread your comment. I saw can and my head saw can’t. That would make no sense.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 03:52 PM

Nice link, Balderdash!

I quote:

The good ol’ boy cracker-crats of the Republican party...

I rest my case on her racism.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 03:52 PM

Spazmo, I agree that she’s crazy, but I think it’s true for other reasons. Still, I can’t find any of what you’re talking about. Perhaps you could find a source?



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 03:56 PM

I just gave you a quote fom Mckinney’s site. Which contains racist, inflammatory rhetoric which I quoted here.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 03:58 PM

As for the open hand slap, it was in the news media, and I’m finding plenty on blogs. I’ll try to find something from a news site when I’m less busy.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:02 PM

Yes, but that doesn’t prove she’s a liar. You said she lied about it. And the people I’m reading who stood behind her on this are Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover.

I think there are some points to your argument, but the only place i can find anything nearly as vitriolic as what you’re spewing is on radically right websites. And I mean radically. Like the right’s version of Echinacea Times.

I want to stress again that I think McKinney is batshit. But even though I dislike McKinney emphatically, your rhetoric strikes me as, well, off.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:06 PM

Here we go:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/04/cops_mckinneys_.html



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:06 PM

I’m finding plenty on blogs

I don’t count Michelle Malkin as a credible source.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:07 PM

Unless USA Today is right wing.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:07 PM

But where does it say she lied?



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:09 PM

And no, I can’t find the claim she made that she hit him with an “open hand slap” right now, but it was aired at the time.

You don’t have to believe me. I’m just saying.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:11 PM

And I explained that the only places it was appearing were blogs not news sources…



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:15 PM

Yeah, that must’ve been while you were watching Glenn Beck. Like I said, I think she’s crazy too. And she was definitely wrong to punch the cop, and to cry racism afterward. But I still think you get most of your news from Bill O’Reilly.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:20 PM

Oh, and the Black Panthers were at least there when she hired them as security.

The New Black Panther Party provoked a melee outside of Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney’s campaign headquarters after she had lost a Democratic primary to her opponent, Hank Johnson. The NBPP’s Chief of Staff, Hashim Nzinga, had been acting as security detail for the Congresswoman when, in a volatile confrontation, he physically attacked reporters, derogatorily calling them “Jews” ...

Once again, I’m in line with my claim that she’s a racist, I think.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 04:22 PM


Isn’t she that racist, violent woman who punched a security guard and then lied about it?

I can find stories about Cynthia McKinney punching a police officer, but I can find nothing to indicate that she’s a racist, or that she lied about it. 

If you’re circumspect, I’d encourage you to research the story yourself. Try to find some original source material on the events rather than someone’s description. FWIW I find Spazmo’s description to be completely accurate. And fair. Maybe not be balanced though. Probably a bit off-kilter.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:23 PM

Yeah, that must’ve been while you were watching Glenn Beck.

I don’t even know who that is. Nor do I watch Bill O’Reilly. I got that from NBC and CNN. Neither great sources, but not as biased as what you’re claiming.

Sorry if I’m embarassing you in front of your liberal friends, but I’ve substantiated everything else I mentioned in my opening comment. And why don’t you enlighten us as to why you think she’s crazy?



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:26 PM

If you’re circumspect, I’d encourage you to research the story yourself.

Not sure who you’re addressing here, but I didn’t get my claim from other people but rather fairly middle of the road, mainstream media sources.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 04:29 PM
Not sure who you’re addressing here,

That would be LP.

Yeah, that must’ve been while you were watching Glenn Beck.

Ouch.

But I still think you get most of your news from Bill O’Reilly.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:34 PM

If you’re circumspect, I’d encourage you to research the story yourself.

I have been, which is why I’m questioning him on it. I just couldn’t find any evidence to support what he was saying in regular papers and magazines, only Michelle Malkin, et al.

Sorry if I’m embarassing you in front of your liberal friends, but I’ve substantiated everything else I mentioned in my opening comment. And why don’t you enlighten us as to why you think she’s crazy?

Well, she kind of went ballistic after 9/11 and accused Bush of being in on it, or knowing about it ahead of time. Which as much as I hate the guy, that seems like of a hell of an accusation to fling.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 04:35 PM

Dance remix (NSFW)



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 04:36 PM

I have been, which is why I’m questioning him on it. I just couldn’t find any evidence to support what he was saying in regular papers and magazines, only Michelle Malkin, et al.

OK, so I can’t find anything in print from a reputable news source regarding her claim that she slapped him with an open hand (which later turned out to be untrue). I assumed it would be easy to substantiate, it’s not. Let it go.

The rest of what I said is valid, though.

And she’s nuts too.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:45 PM

Okay, next time we do the thing we do, you dress up as Cynthia McKinney, I’ll dress up as the police officer, you slap or punch me, then I’ll arrest you and pork you with my night stick.

Afterward we can discuss the matter and see how we feel about the whole thing, and come to some agreement about it all.

As long as I get to pork you with my night stick. Mm-kay?



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:46 PM

FAIR’S FAIR, Spazmo. You don’t have to dress up as Cynthia McKinney if the racial overtones bother you. That’s not what I’m getting at anyway. Just as long as I can pork you with my night stick. And you wear a skirt.



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Posted by Lady Penelope
07/14 04:53 PM

I think I’ve disturbed myself.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 05:09 PM
Which as much as I hate the guy, that seems like of a hell of an accusation to fling.

Well in that respect she’s much like a certain animal flinging it’s poo.  I just can’t say which one because it might be misconstrued as racist (I actually dislike all poo-flingers equally).

As I mentioned I think Spazmo’s description McKinney is accurate.


She then got Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers (a group notorious for hating Jews) behind her to crucify this white security guard.

That would be the New Black Panther Party which is not the same as or affiliated with the Black Panthers from the 60s that disbanded in the 70s.



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Posted by Moon
07/14 05:15 PM

At the time, I did a LOT of research into this, because we were arguing about it extensively on Fark. Cynthia McKinney is not the pure soul she claims to be in this, but that security guard was acting a bit like a Nazi, too.

Sure, she was trying to blow through security without showing her credentials (she had left them in her office and had to get to a meeting or a vote), but come on. How many times has this guy seen her? He doesn’t recognize her or one of her entourage? Please. He was just being a jerk. Racist? Maybe not. But I can see somebody who is on “Racist alert” all the time, like Cynthia McKinney, thinking so.



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Posted by Moon
07/14 05:16 PM

And she’s the best possible candidate for the Green Party. She will pull ZERO votes from Obama.



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Posted by Moon
07/14 05:19 PM

I think I’ve disturbed myself.

Think of the rest of us.

Just to add to the fray, I think a Sailor Moon costume would be wonderful (and not just because I’m Moon!)



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Posted by Spazmo
07/14 05:26 PM

but come on. How many times has this guy seen her?

Actually, that doesn’t matter, he should still stop her, and they do that to me too. I work in a federal building - Social Security Administration’s Headquarters. One of the security guards knows me well. He’s from North Carolina too. We talk about how much we hate Duke.

Every time I come through - he scans me for weapons with the metal detector wand and makes me empty out my pockets. It’s been going on for 18 months or so. That’s actually how it is in a Federal Building. What he did wasn’t out of line at all, NOT doing it would have been negligent.



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Posted by Moon
07/14 05:35 PM

You think he stopped Ted Kennedy every time? Or Tom DeLay? How about Dick Cheney?



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Posted by balderdash
07/14 05:47 PM

I will never ever ever learn to back quietly out of the room at the prudent moment, will I?
I am in agreement that violence and racism are bad, m’kay?
Learning not to act like an asshole is a good way to battle violence and racism. This will be my project for the next three semesters.
I am really sad that the Green party is letting itself get so driven off the road.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 05:53 PM

And she’s the best possible candidate for the Green Party. She will pull ZERO votes from Obama.

Excellent point. You should be on the McLaughlin Group.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 06:06 PM

but come on. How many times has this guy seen her?

Actually, that doesn’t matter, he should still stop her, and they do that to me too.

You can never be too vigilant. Familiarity breeds insecurity. Every time my girlfriend comes over to my place I demand to see her credentials.



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Posted by Moon
07/14 06:09 PM

YOU DIDN’T PUT MY FACE ON TONY BLANKLEY!!!!



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
07/14 06:35 PM

Tony Blankley is a dandy.  He’s also a former fatty who had gastric bypass.  Got too thin I think. He’s not on McLaughlin anymore. McLaughlin seems to like a more rotund commentator sitting on his left. Jack Germond before Blankley.



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Posted by rev. dimmer
07/14 06:58 PM

Sadly the Green Party (like Greenpeace) has been taken over by folks with extreme, non-scientific political points of view. The net result is that Joe and Josie Blow see these groups as irrational and irrelevant and ignores not only the parties, but the underlying actual environmental issues.

Any environmentalist who doesn’t think nuclear power is the best solution to energy needs is bat-shit crazy.



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Posted by gloveshot
07/14 09:18 PM

I wonder whom the the Grassroots Party will put on the ballot this year?



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Posted by Waterhouse
07/15 09:11 AM

Alright, can we all agree that, racist or no, Cynthia McKinney is a crazy and a blowhard and that the Green Party is, once again, doing itself no favors by nominating her?



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Posted by Waterhouse
07/15 09:12 AM

I don’t know what it is with these greens that they seem so intent on making themselves more and more irrelevant.

It’s really sad.



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Posted by Waterhouse
07/15 09:14 AM

Any environmentalist who doesn’t think nuclear power is the best solution to energy needs is bat-shit crazy.

I’ll grant you nuclear is a more and more viable grid-based option compared to fossil fuels, Dimmer, but what about transportation energy needs. We can’t have cars that run on plutonium. So, what’s the best alternative? Electric? Fuel cells?



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Posted by Moon
07/15 10:09 AM

TOP, that was very well done, BTW. I’m still laughing today!

/I ask you MOON! Hahahaha!



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Posted by Moon
07/15 10:12 AM

The whole problem with electric is that there are no “filling stations” or “battery exchange stations” or whatever.

You know what they said as late as WWII, when they were talking about motorizing the cavalry and getting rid of horses?

“How will that work? With horses you always have grass and water, but where are you going to get fuel?”

If they wanted to do this, they could. We are country run by oil-men, though, so it’s not going to happen.



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Posted by Spazmo
07/15 10:21 AM

You think he stopped Ted Kennedy every time? Or Tom DeLay? How about Dick Cheney?

It doesn’t matter who he didn’t stop. You can’t give a cop crap for the speeders they don’t catch. If they caught you speeding, you’re guilty. If you punch the cop, you’re an asshole and you’re breaking the law once again.

That’s what she did, and then used race to get out of taking the blame. It was an unconscionable series of decisions she made.



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