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Thursday, February 18, 2010 posted by Lady Penelope in Politics World

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Posted by Agriope
02/18 10:53 AM

Well, hello, Dalai!
Anybody got anything better???



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Posted by gloveshot
02/18 11:11 AM

Wasn’t Dalai the first cloned sheep?



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Posted by Agriope
02/18 01:53 PM

I believe so, GS.

Wasn’t there one about a super-calloused, fragile mystic?  Can’t remember how that goes…



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Posted by GoatBoy
02/18 02:00 PM

Dumb move. Protip: crunchy, be-dreaded types outside concerts really like it when you point out they’re involved in a movement to free Tibet to be ruled again by their local religious autocrat.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
02/19 03:38 PM

Crunchy lawyers would like Tibet to free from the PRC social engineering mass in-migration of ethnic Han people with the express intent of effecting the human and cultural genocide of the Tibetan people, free, as we in the West understand the term, in expression and self determination, and free to be ruled however determined by the will of the indigenous peoples of Tibet themselves.

The historic governance of Tibet by it’s indigenous Buddhist leaders was indeed autocratic and a society of wealthy elites and common poor people. I would suggest that it was no more, and perhaps less, autocratic than our government structures in the West, notwithstanding the façade of *democratic* (however any of us may have chosen to define the term) elections. It was also always a form of governance determined by the free will of the people of Tibet.

To suggest, in any way, that *freeing them* from their current plight under PRC and restoring rule by the Tibetan Buddhist leadership would return them to a condition that is, in any way, of comparable oppression is absurd and sounds like a talking point of PRC propaganda.

The grotesque circumstance of the PRC kidnap and effected disappearance of the Panchen Lama Gedhun Choekyi Nyima in 1995 is more evidence than anyone should need on the relative merits of the positions of the Tibetan people vs the PRC.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
02/19 03:44 PM

Also how exactly is Obama meeting the Dalai Lama a “Dumb move”.  The only valid argument, albeit odious, is that U.S. economic interests vis-a-vis China are more imoportant than any consideration of human rights regarding the Tibetan people.



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Posted by GoatBoy
02/19 03:44 PM

May sound like. But, in my case, isn’t. I made no defense of China’s ethnic cleansing via migration overwhelm.

I guess I’m overly cynical.



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Posted by GoatBoy
02/19 03:45 PM

"Also how exactly is Obama meeting the Dalai Lama a “Dumb move”.  The only valid argument, albeit odious, is that U.S. economic interests vis-a-vis China are more imoportant than any consideration of human rights regarding the Tibetan people.

Don’t watch how the sausage is made.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
02/19 03:52 PM

Well there’s no doubt that “Free Tibet” is one of those sexy causes that attracts too many angst ridden privileged university students and celebrities and I don’t have any problem with someone taking the piss out of the cause for that.  I think the Dalai Lama has a pretty keen awareness and pragmatic approach to whoring out his persona to these types for self-aggrandizing conspicuous caring by such types.



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
02/21 03:14 PM

When asked his thoughts on the Tiger Woods scandal and Tiger’s supposed return to Buddhism, the Dalai Lama responded “Tiger who?”



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Posted by Tapestry of Passion
02/21 03:16 PM

Gunga,gunga galunga.



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